Endocrine Therapy Side Effects – Your Input Requested! By DrAttai On April 13, 2013 · 7 Comments
A bit of crowdsourcing help, please! I’m giving a talk at the upcoming The American Society of Breast Surgeons Annual Meeting – the title is: “Endocrine Therapy Side Effects and Treatment of Side Effects- What the Literature Says, What Your Patients are Saying” (...) Anyone comfortable with leaving your thoughts here, please do. No one will be mentioned by name or will be identified in any way – I’m interested in the side effects and remedies only. (...) Thank you all in advance for your help! After the talk, I’ll post the slides.
Here's my input:
I have had three primary Breast Cancers. Each was ER positive.After my second primary, in 2005, I agreed to go on Tamoxifen, starting about a month after completing radiation. At that time, I still had an active infection in the surgery site (from lumpectomy 6 months prior); I was still healing from the open wound/burn caused by radiation, and I was in very poor shape physically, emotionally and spiritually. Ironically, at diagnosis in March 2005, I was the fittest, leanest, healthiest I had ever been, with an athlete’s resting heart rate, and I have always been a “tough” person with a high tolerance for pain.
So, when I began Tamoxifen, I was very much diminished. Immediately, I got terrible headaches (they went away after a month or so), and yes, I would get “hot” but nothing too extreme. That, I could live with.
Very quickly though, I went from having very little energy to having none whatsoever. My mind became completely and utterly shrouded in clouds of dense fog that every now and again would thin out, but only for a second or two. I began to have recurring nightmares* where I was trying to walk (never mind run!) and could not lift my feet, and when I would try to call for help, if I could find the words, they would come out in extreme slow-motion. I described it as feeling like I was constantly underwater, walking uphill, against a strong current. I have always had a sharp, wicked-fast brain, especially with words and concepts. That all turned to blubber. I would blank out, could not find the words/terms I needed to express myself, and to make matters worse, it constantly felt like I had those words at the tip of my tongue but could not summon them…. So there was an almost constant state of distress, anxiety and dismay. And fear that I would be like this forever.
Many days, I did not feel safe to drive. Meanwhile, I was busy trying to get my life back together after this second cancer, was searching for work, and living alone with nobody to take care of me. At the time I used to joke that I could certainly carry on like this for 5 years (usual course of treatment with Tamoxifen) if I were independently wealthy and had a staff — a chauffeur, a chef, etc. to take care of everything. But even if I had been living the Downton Abbey lifestyle, it would have been unbearable and I wouldn’t have been able to consider continuing to exist like a zombie.
I toiled along for a year, and finally, after a detailed conversation with my oncologist, she agreed to give me a month off, just to see. Immediately I began to feel (only a tiny bit) better, and we prolonged the drug holiday. As I continued to improve (still only at a snail’s pace) she finally recommended that I stop taking Tamoxifen as it was having such a severe impact on my daily life.
I was and still am extremely dismayed and angry that Tamoxifen is not viewed by many as a drug whose side effects can be as serious and impactful as those of chemo. I have done chemo, so I know of what I speak. Chemo is brutal, devastating, yes. BUT, for early stage Breast Cancer, adjuvant chemo is not something you have to do for 5 years. I am saying this because when I was done with “treatment” (i.e., radiation) for my second cancer, I had exhausted all my savings and resources and could barely afford my rent and health insurance premium, never mind medical bills. I reached out, for the first time in my life, for financial aid, and was told that Tamoxifen did not qualify as “cancer treatment” by organizations that offered to help cancer patients going through cancer treatment. So, if I had not spent my own money when going through what these organizations termed “treatment” and asked them for help then, maybe I would have had some left over by the time I was dealing with the side effects of Tamoxifen??
If I had been able to continue the prescribed course of Tamoxifen, I wonder if I would have developed a third primary. I will address my third primary in a separate comment.
When Tamoxifen has side effects like these, you don’t look sick, you are not bald, your blood counts are fine…. your suffering is invisible and you are very, very, very easily dismissed. Please shed light on this and help us.
Thank you for reading,
Liza Bernstein
*By the way, the nightmares I described were nightmares, but they also were expressions of what many of my waking hours felt like.
PS: here's the post I wrote about how this #BCSM initiative is a form of collaborative medicine in action.



